Comments on: mammoth suburban land infusions http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/ the herculez gomez of architecture blogs Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:02:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: namhenderson http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1428 namhenderson Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:20:46 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1428 Here is some interesting followup commentary on Reburbia entries http://news.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/architecturehereandthere/2009/08/column-how-to-o.html Here is some interesting followup commentary on Reburbia entries

http://news.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/architecturehereandthere/2009/08/column-how-to-o.html

]]> By: namhenderson http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1288 namhenderson Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:54:04 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1288 sbecker, exactly. Also speaking of perforation did you see this? http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=91184_0_24_0_C Although, there the concept is not being applied urbanistically, per se. But as a facade. sbecker, exactly.

Also speaking of perforation did you see this?

http://archinect.com/news/article.php?id=91184_0_24_0_C

Although, there the concept is not being applied urbanistically, per se. But as a facade.

]]> By: burn down the suburbs, and other comments on reburbia - mammoth // building nothing out of something http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1287 burn down the suburbs, and other comments on reburbia - mammoth // building nothing out of something Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:14:28 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1287 [...] Nam mentions in the comments on Stephen’s post, the re-burbia competition’s phrasing and framing seems to imply a [...] [...] Nam mentions in the comments on Stephen’s post, the re-burbia competition’s phrasing and framing seems to imply a [...]

]]> By: sbecker http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1271 sbecker Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:58:26 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1271 Did someone blame our loss on the wow factor? I didn't. If I sounded like I was lamenting that only the pretty girls get asked to dance, sorry. It wasn't my intention. I think the clarity of the images posted by bldgblog which I referred to are a key component of their beauty. I don't think that if our images were just more dramatic (I'm assuming this is what you mean by 'wow factor'), folks would have paid more attention to our entry and bowed down before its brilliance. If things aren't clear, thats on us, and something we'll have to improve. Let's not confuse that valid critique by inserting phrases no one used. Did someone blame our loss on the wow factor? I didn’t. If I sounded like I was lamenting that only the pretty girls get asked to dance, sorry. It wasn’t my intention. I think the clarity of the images posted by bldgblog which I referred to are a key component of their beauty. I don’t think that if our images were just more dramatic (I’m assuming this is what you mean by ‘wow factor’), folks would have paid more attention to our entry and bowed down before its brilliance. If things aren’t clear, thats on us, and something we’ll have to improve. Let’s not confuse that valid critique by inserting phrases no one used.

]]> By: Mike http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 Mike Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:42:00 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1270 Don't blame the "wow factor" of your visuals for your exclusion, you lost because the clarity of your idea as expressed (both graphically and textually) is very poor. I was truly intrigued by the premise of your submission, but after re-reading this post and examining each image twice, I STILL can't understand what you're proposing here. My guess is that the judges couldn't either. Don’t blame the “wow factor” of your visuals for your exclusion, you lost because the clarity of your idea as expressed (both graphically and textually) is very poor. I was truly intrigued by the premise of your submission, but after re-reading this post and examining each image twice, I STILL can’t understand what you’re proposing here. My guess is that the judges couldn’t either.

]]> By: sbecker http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1268 sbecker Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:27:51 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1268 Nam, I've never heard of / seen an articulated description of 'urban acupuncture', though it sounds exciting - does such a thing exist? Or was this promising phrase something that perforation brought to your mind? "Perforation seem to me to suggest more of a spatially flattened/widened targeting as opposed to a more focused acupuncture" I'd say that's right. We understand perforation to be here applied fairly universally, with gradiated qualities. In my mind, acupuncture implies the opposite - the quality (or action) is pretty much the same everywhere it is applied, but the application is hyper-focused, local - not universal. Perforation is first informed by phenomenal concerns - particularly the amount light and perceived shelter you are looking for in a specific place. But what I find more interesting are the implications (for structure, surface habitability, required thickness, etc) these decisions have; and the potential for these trade-offs to act as a primary driver of development. That's why we hypothesized that such become the planning mechanism for the land, instead of a sort of mandated-use, zoned, master-planned scenario. We're searching for a way to create indirectly-controlled landscapes which encourage creative appropriation. Nam, I’ve never heard of / seen an articulated description of ‘urban acupuncture’, though it sounds exciting – does such a thing exist? Or was this promising phrase something that perforation brought to your mind?

“Perforation seem to me to suggest more of a spatially flattened/widened targeting as opposed to a more focused acupuncture”

I’d say that’s right. We understand perforation to be here applied fairly universally, with gradiated qualities. In my mind, acupuncture implies the opposite – the quality (or action) is pretty much the same everywhere it is applied, but the application is hyper-focused, local – not universal.

Perforation is first informed by phenomenal concerns – particularly the amount light and perceived shelter you are looking for in a specific place. But what I find more interesting are the implications (for structure, surface habitability, required thickness, etc) these decisions have; and the potential for these trade-offs to act as a primary driver of development. That’s why we hypothesized that such become the planning mechanism for the land, instead of a sort of mandated-use, zoned, master-planned scenario. We’re searching for a way to create indirectly-controlled landscapes which encourage creative appropriation.

]]> By: namhenderson http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1267 namhenderson Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:48:16 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1267 Unfortunately images make more of an "impact" with regards to voting that ever i think, especially in these kind of (short/quick digital popup) competitions. Your "celebration" of the suburbs approach, is a nice critical change from the the burbs are totally wasteland mentality. Of course the very idea of re-burbia, would seem to me to imply, as much. I was especially struck by your use of "perforation" (and it's accompanying set of images), and wondered how this might differ from the concept of "urban acupuncture". Perforation seem to me to suggest more of a spatially flattened/widened targeting as opposed to a more focused acupuncture? Unfortunately images make more of an “impact” with regards to voting that ever i think, especially in these kind of (short/quick digital popup) competitions.

Your “celebration” of the suburbs approach, is a nice critical change from the the burbs are totally wasteland mentality. Of course the very idea of re-burbia, would seem to me to imply, as much.

I was especially struck by your use of “perforation” (and it’s accompanying set of images), and wondered how this might differ from the concept of “urban acupuncture”. Perforation seem to me to suggest more of a spatially flattened/widened targeting as opposed to a more focused acupuncture?

]]> By: Andrew Liebchen http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 Andrew Liebchen Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:07:40 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1248 Yeah, right? Those are some fantastic, quiet images. Yeah, right? Those are some fantastic, quiet images.

]]> By: sbecker http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1246 sbecker Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:51:57 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1246 Thanks. I think the way we approached the issues the competition tries to engage is sound; if only our boards were as beautiful as these we might have had a chance... http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/future-pastoral.html Thanks. I think the way we approached the issues the competition tries to engage is sound; if only our boards were as beautiful as these we might have had a chance…

http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/future-pastoral.html

]]> By: Andrew Liebchen http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/08/mammoth-suburban-land-infusions/comment-page-1/#comment-1244 Andrew Liebchen Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:15:08 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=614#comment-1244 You should have been there. Most of the entries are pretty disappointing. You should have been there. Most of the entries are pretty disappointing.

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