Comments on: extraterrestial infrastructure http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/extraterrestial-infrastructure/ the herculez gomez of architecture blogs Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:02:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Fake Buildings http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/extraterrestial-infrastructure/comment-page-1/#comment-12370 Fake Buildings Sun, 23 May 2010 05:45:43 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=951#comment-12370 [...] Today M.ammoth pointed me toward an article in the New Atlantis by Rand Simberg, an aerospace engineer and blogger.  Simberg lays out the fallacies as he and many in the aerospace community in NASA’s re-tread of the Apollo program.  In short, he calls the space agency and government to task for its monolithic bloated-ness, declaring NASA a stagnant protector of jobs in crucial congressional districts that needlessly monopolizes human spaceflight.  As an alternative, he suggests aggregating an orbiting and deep space fueling infrastructure, supplied and maintained by the private sector.  Thus the burden of lifting all of a mission’s fuel (read: weight) at the time of launch is eliminated, and the marginal cost of getting into orbit is drastically reduced. [...] [...] Today M.ammoth pointed me toward an article in the New Atlantis by Rand Simberg, an aerospace engineer and blogger.  Simberg lays out the fallacies as he and many in the aerospace community in NASA’s re-tread of the Apollo program.  In short, he calls the space agency and government to task for its monolithic bloated-ness, declaring NASA a stagnant protector of jobs in crucial congressional districts that needlessly monopolizes human spaceflight.  As an alternative, he suggests aggregating an orbiting and deep space fueling infrastructure, supplied and maintained by the private sector.  Thus the burden of lifting all of a mission’s fuel (read: weight) at the time of launch is eliminated, and the marginal cost of getting into orbit is drastically reduced. [...]

]]> By: rholmes http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/extraterrestial-infrastructure/comment-page-1/#comment-3318 rholmes Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:09:56 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=951#comment-3318 I thought the author engaged in a bit of "the market will do it" hand-waving occasionally, too. But his argument is that we ought to become a space-faring civilization, and for that, developing an extraterrestrial refueling infrastructure (whether in low orbit or on the moon or further) does seem essential. Whether that's a good goal or not is an entirely different matter (and one that I don't really have any way to evaluate, as I know very little about how realistic a goal it is). I thought the author engaged in a bit of “the market will do it” hand-waving occasionally, too.

But his argument is that we ought to become a space-faring civilization, and for that, developing an extraterrestrial refueling infrastructure (whether in low orbit or on the moon or further) does seem essential. Whether that’s a good goal or not is an entirely different matter (and one that I don’t really have any way to evaluate, as I know very little about how realistic a goal it is).

]]> By: J.D. Hammond http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/extraterrestial-infrastructure/comment-page-1/#comment-3301 J.D. Hammond Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:01:43 +0000 http://m.ammoth.us/blog/?p=951#comment-3301 I found the article rather heartbreaking. A lot of it is thought-provoking, though I'm not sure that I agree with the corporatist sentiment that keeps peeking through his attempts at third-way posturing. While I think it's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how it would help to reduce costs for reaching low-Earth orbit. Once you're in orbit, you don't need fuel unless you're attempting to go further, and we're having difficulties advancing even that far. Perhaps a space elevator is in order...? I found the article rather heartbreaking. A lot of it is thought-provoking, though I’m not sure that I agree with the corporatist sentiment that keeps peeking through his attempts at third-way posturing.

While I think it’s an interesting idea, I’m not sure how it would help to reduce costs for reaching low-Earth orbit. Once you’re in orbit, you don’t need fuel unless you’re attempting to go further, and we’re having difficulties advancing even that far. Perhaps a space elevator is in order…?

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