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	<title>Comments on: metaphor and landscape</title>
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	<description>building nothing out of something</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
		<link>http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/metaphor-and-landscape/#comment-3575</link>
		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a relatively well-known piece by the landscape architect Marc Treib entitled &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=7jxGSGbrhEUC&#38;pg=PA89&#38;lpg=PA89&#38;dq=%22must+landscapes+mean%22&#38;source=bl&#38;ots=w8cEl8TVYi&#38;sig=pV3AkOOPeSq7xKn8TsO8X9OHazc&#38;hl=en&#38;ei=IlboSt65O9DelAfzh62MCA&#38;sa=X&#38;oi=book_result&#38;ct=result&#38;resnum=2&#38;ved=0CA8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&#38;q=%22must%20landscapes%20mean%22&#38;f=false" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Must Landscapes Mean?"&lt;/a&gt;.  I'm pretty sure the answer is "no".  Which isn't to say that there isn't meaning in landscape (and hence a place for understanding landscape through literary devices, though I don't think there's a perfect overlap between the place of, say, the "mythical" and that of meaning), but that a framework for understanding the design of landscapes can't begin (or stop) with meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a relatively well-known piece by the landscape architect Marc Treib entitled <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=7jxGSGbrhEUC&amp;pg=PA89&amp;lpg=PA89&amp;dq=%22must+landscapes+mean%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=w8cEl8TVYi&amp;sig=pV3AkOOPeSq7xKn8TsO8X9OHazc&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=IlboSt65O9DelAfzh62MCA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=2&amp;ved=0CA8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;q=%22must%20landscapes%20mean%22&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Must Landscapes Mean?&#8221;</a>.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the answer is &#8220;no&#8221;.  Which isn&#8217;t to say that there isn&#8217;t meaning in landscape (and hence a place for understanding landscape through literary devices, though I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a perfect overlap between the place of, say, the &#8220;mythical&#8221; and that of meaning), but that a framework for understanding the design of landscapes can&#8217;t begin (or stop) with meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: namhenderson</title>
		<link>http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/metaphor-and-landscape/#comment-3523</link>
		<dc:creator>namhenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I guess what I am saying is that it seems like faslanyc is arguing that Blum in his piece he is trying to explicitly include metaphor as a category of interrogation. Whereas you seem to be arguing that in fact Blum isn't interested in metaphor as a literary category at all, but is focused on a sort of shift in practice (the technical shift you were talking about). Personally i agree and have always found said technical shift to be the more compelling a realm of examination when compared to a more metaphor or literary/figurative method of practice/interrogation..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I guess what I am saying is that it seems like faslanyc is arguing that Blum in his piece he is trying to explicitly include metaphor as a category of interrogation. Whereas you seem to be arguing that in fact Blum isn&#8217;t interested in metaphor as a literary category at all, but is focused on a sort of shift in practice (the technical shift you were talking about). Personally i agree and have always found said technical shift to be the more compelling a realm of examination when compared to a more metaphor or literary/figurative method of practice/interrogation..</p>
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		<title>By: rholmes</title>
		<link>http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/metaphor-and-landscape/#comment-3515</link>
		<dc:creator>rholmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Nam, I don't follow you...  (I'm not even sure I follow my own argument here -- usually I feel reasonably clear about what I'm trying to say in a post, but not so much in this one.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Nam, I don&#8217;t follow you&#8230;  (I&#8217;m not even sure I follow my own argument here &#8212; usually I feel reasonably clear about what I&#8217;m trying to say in a post, but not so much in this one.)</p>
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		<title>By: namhenderson</title>
		<link>http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/10/metaphor-and-landscape/#comment-3503</link>
		<dc:creator>namhenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps another way of stating it is that landscapes "operating successfully as landscapes that function in both ecological and urban systems" is literally the metaphor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps another way of stating it is that landscapes &#8220;operating successfully as landscapes that function in both ecological and urban systems&#8221; is literally the metaphor</p>
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