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	<title>Comments on: ordinance sculptors</title>
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		<title>By: ordinances, sculpted &#8211; mammoth // building nothing out of something</title>
		<link>http://m.ammoth.us/blog/2009/12/ordinance-sculptors/comment-page-1/#comment-14902</link>
		<dc:creator>ordinances, sculpted &#8211; mammoth // building nothing out of something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] zoning ordinances (and having then speculated on the possibility that architects might design by sculpting ordinances), I think it worth mentioning Steven Holl&#8217;s &#8220;Sliced Porosity Block&#8221;.  In [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] zoning ordinances (and having then speculated on the possibility that architects might design by sculpting ordinances), I think it worth mentioning Steven Holl&#8217;s &#8220;Sliced Porosity Block&#8221;.  In [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I expect the results would be quite different if you asked a group of architects to execute an alternative code than they are when planners do the same&quot;

We may indeed be on the verge of avante architects going to code and planning... I&#039;m remembering from the Koolhaas (referencing your &quot;previously on mammoth&quot; post) Lagos documentary video where Koolhaas looks at all the horrible sci-fi-esque effects of his beloved capitalism gone unmuzzled and unleashed in Africa and he reflects that all the planning he had foresaken might need to be revisited in a new form....
I think the same sentiment came up in his lecture at the Ecological cities conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I expect the results would be quite different if you asked a group of architects to execute an alternative code than they are when planners do the same&#8221;</p>
<p>We may indeed be on the verge of avante architects going to code and planning&#8230; I&#8217;m remembering from the Koolhaas (referencing your &#8220;previously on mammoth&#8221; post) Lagos documentary video where Koolhaas looks at all the horrible sci-fi-esque effects of his beloved capitalism gone unmuzzled and unleashed in Africa and he reflects that all the planning he had foresaken might need to be revisited in a new form&#8230;.<br />
I think the same sentiment came up in his lecture at the Ecological cities conference.</p>
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		<title>By: namhenderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>namhenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I think the ideas especially related to the nexus of smart mobility/smart energy is a key area of the coming urban informatics revolution. 
However, the difference is that as Duany points out in his session (and I swear i never thought I would be discussing Duany positively) is that as he said America&#039;s middle class is the problem. And as much as the stuff Smart Cities is doing is great i don&#039;t think it will ever impact that large section of the population in America (and other places world wide as we export our old model) that are sub/ex urban or rural etc..
The Smart City solutions make cities better.
But what about addressing those areas that aren&#039;t truly dense and urban?
And here I don&#039;t mean to be implying a strict urban and non urban dichotomy..


That is why “freeware smart codes” and the like I think are very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I think the ideas especially related to the nexus of smart mobility/smart energy is a key area of the coming urban informatics revolution.<br />
However, the difference is that as Duany points out in his session (and I swear i never thought I would be discussing Duany positively) is that as he said America&#8217;s middle class is the problem. And as much as the stuff Smart Cities is doing is great i don&#8217;t think it will ever impact that large section of the population in America (and other places world wide as we export our old model) that are sub/ex urban or rural etc..<br />
The Smart City solutions make cities better.<br />
But what about addressing those areas that aren&#8217;t truly dense and urban?<br />
And here I don&#8217;t mean to be implying a strict urban and non urban dichotomy..</p>
<p>That is why “freeware smart codes” and the like I think are very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: rholmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>rholmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Yeah, I meant Mitchell.  Old news or not, I think Mitchell&#039;s much closer to solving some very big problems than just about anyone else.

I agree, the notion of &quot;freeware smart codes&quot; is fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Yeah, I meant Mitchell.  Old news or not, I think Mitchell&#8217;s much closer to solving some very big problems than just about anyone else.</p>
<p>I agree, the notion of &#8220;freeware smart codes&#8221; is fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: namhenderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>namhenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morrish wasn&#039;t on that session. Just 
Andrés Duany, William J. Mitchell, Federico Parolotto and Niels Schulz. I like the smart cities lab work but have seen it/heard it before.
I like Duany&#039;s idea of devolving power over codes ordinances to the more localized/affected group/power block. From municipality to block  etc.
He was also going on about this &lt;em&gt;Citizen participation in the planning process is probably the biggest roadblock.&lt;/em&gt; During his presentation.
And i love this term &quot;freeware smart codes&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morrish wasn&#8217;t on that session. Just<br />
Andrés Duany, William J. Mitchell, Federico Parolotto and Niels Schulz. I like the smart cities lab work but have seen it/heard it before.<br />
I like Duany&#8217;s idea of devolving power over codes ordinances to the more localized/affected group/power block. From municipality to block  etc.<br />
He was also going on about this <em>Citizen participation in the planning process is probably the biggest roadblock.</em> During his presentation.<br />
And i love this term &#8220;freeware smart codes&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rholmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>rholmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better than Morrish?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than Morrish?!</p>
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		<title>By: namhenderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>namhenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, this isn&#039;t far from where I am. Maybe i should try and check it out.

As for Duany I had a couple of recent (like in the last 10 mins) Tweets by me on his talk at GSD eco-urbanism conference. What is interesting is that he mentions a few of the points you said makes in the article.
I actually liked his presentation best out of all the presenters in that session (Mobility, Infrastructure and Society).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, this isn&#8217;t far from where I am. Maybe i should try and check it out.</p>
<p>As for Duany I had a couple of recent (like in the last 10 mins) Tweets by me on his talk at GSD eco-urbanism conference. What is interesting is that he mentions a few of the points you said makes in the article.<br />
I actually liked his presentation best out of all the presenters in that session (Mobility, Infrastructure and Society).</p>
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